Corey and David discuss the creation of secret space program, which began during the World War II era.
According to Goode, an occult group within the German government began to develop a secret agenda after realizing the war was not going to end in German’s favor. This select group settled in South America, and later Antartica, after developing advanced space age technology. This occurred as a result of contact between the Agartha Network and Draco civilization, which saw the formation of alliances during the 1920’s and 30’s; as discussed by Goode in Episode 1: Contact Is Made.
Goode says a power play ensued between the American and German breakaway groups, eventfully leading to the breakaway group infiltrating the highest levels of the American military industrial complex, government and intelligence.
The secret space program, as described by Goode, is the genesis of this parasitic merger between the German breakaway group and the American cabal. Once unified, a vast amount of advanced hardware staffed by millions of people began to spread across the planet and into the stars.
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Corey Goode describes the inception of the great military-industrial complex which endowed its power holders with the capability to form the first breakaway civilizations. He tells how advancement in early space-bound technology put unprecedented power in the hands of a few who wasted no time in acquiring even more power. Operations Paperclip and Highjump were just two of the initial steps which led to the consolidation of technology corporations that became known collectively as the military-industrial complex.
This interview with David Wilcock was originally webcast October 20, 2015.
The summarized notes will be in black, with my commentary in [green bolded brackets]. Alterations to the transcript for ease of reading will be in [brackets].
DW = David Wilcock, CG = Corey Goode
THE AGARTHAN INFLUENCE IN ANCIENT TIMES:
- DW – I’m jazzed up for this episode, welcome back. I am your host David Wilcock. We are delving deep into the world of cosmic information. The most highly classified stuff you can possibly get your hands on. It’s been jealously guarded behind so many compartmented layers of secrecy, it was never available before now. If you have been following our narrative ark in previous episodes, we already covered some really incredible stuff. We discussed how German secret societies as early as the 1920’s and 1930’s formed diplomatic and political relationships with two different intelligent civilizations, one known as the Draco, which appears to be a confederacy of reptilian looking humanoids…
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- DW – And the other being, the Agarthans, which are Nordic looking people. In other words, blue eyes and blonde hair, humans about are height, maybe a little bit taller, that revealed themselves as being not from this world…
- DW – But as Corey said, the Agarthans are in fact people that originated here on Earth, but due to catastrophic events, had to go underground. Now what we’ve been discussing is how this alliance formed. And how the Agarthans and the Draco allowed the Germans to be able to have the little extra help they needed in order to make their way up into space. We were just starting to get into really good stuff last time, and now we’re back to continue the story forward. Corey welcome back to the show.
- CG – Thank you.
- DW – I’m just trying to keep my brain in my head here. What is it like to get brought into this world and learn all these things. If you are walking around in society and you know all this stuff, what’s it like to see people that think we’re alone in the universe and this is all there is and there’s no life after death. What’s it like to be brought into this world?
- CG – You get used to it. I see people looking up at the Moon, but when I look up at the Moon it is totally different [what] than other people [perceive]. You grow accustomed to it.
- DW – We were talking about the history of how our space program got developed. This subject of the Agarthans is really fascinating, it seems to connect so many dots. When Gram Hancock wrote Finger Prints of the Gods, his hypothesis was that you have these blonde-haired, blue eyed, Ayran-looking people who show up in boats, to all these various indigenous cultures all over the world, present themselves as gods, and teach them things like how to make a water wheel to grind grain, how to do metallurgy, mathematics, astronomy, etc. [According to accepted archeology, at the end of the last ice-age there was a massive cataclysm, recorded in myth and legend as the great flood. Approximately 11,500 years ago, as described by Gram Hancock and many other researchers, an object smashed into the Earth’s surface forcing most of the civilizations at the time to go underground or be destroyed. Many cultures were in fact irrecoverably damaged and fell into a deep forgetting as a result. What this earthbound object was that crashed into the surface remains a topic of debate in many truther circles, but one intriguing account claims that the catastrophe was caused by warring factions of a once unified Atlantean civilization. For more on this see Atlantean Technology and History | A Very Detailed Story of the Fall of Atlantis and their use of Crystals. According to CG’s recent report, Civilization Subterranean Council Meeting & SSP Alliance Debrief Part I – “Honeycomb Earth”, the Agarthans witnessed the fall and contacted the surface population at various points through out history, offering technology and knowledge as DW describes. This could explain the oddities found in many ancient cultures that emerged seemingly out of no where, such as the Sumerian culture, which had civil law, money, technology, astrology, agriculture and so on, with no ‘slow development’ period before hand. This culture literally arrived fully complete and within their own writings, claimed to have been inspired by beings from the heavens, the so-called Annunaki.]
- DW - Do you think the Agarthans had a lot to do with rebuilding our societies in the aftermath of some sort of catastrophe?
- CG – Yes. That ancient breakaway civilization [the Agarthans] did help and there were others that did the same thing.
- DW – You said these Agarthans were more favorable to the Germans because the looked more like us, and this is where they got the master race concept from – you believe?
- CG – Either that, or they were favorable to them because of their proclivity to a master race. I don’t know what came first.
- DW – Did the Agarthans fly with the Germans in their Bell craft?
|Alleged photograph of German antigravity vehicle with an artist rendition of the Bell engine superimposed over it.|
- CG – Well, the bell was actually the engine component that [created] the electrogravitic field. The craft were actually larger saucer-shaped in the beginning.
- DW – What were the craft called in the documentation you saw?
- CG – When the Americans actually got their hands on them, they termed them ARVs; Alien Reproduction Vehicles.
|A diagram of an ARV.|
- DW – Well, just to loop back to my original question – because some people are going to be left hanging if you don’t answer this, did the Agarthans ride with the Germans in these craft?
- CG – Yes.
- DW – Really?
- CG – Yeah.
- DW – Was this a frequent thing? Were they usually supervised [by the Agarthans], [they] didn’t just go by themselves?
- CG – In the beginning [they were flying with the Agarthans].
- DW – What was the size you would estimate, of the Agarthan population? Are we talking maybe 10,000 or 100,000 people? How big is it?
- CG – I don’t know, but I do know it was very large because it was a network [of cities or settlements].
- DW – Really?
- CG – This was a network of underground cities. In the Himalayas, that is the closest-to-the-surface city, and this seemed to be where they came and went from the most from the surface.
- DW – Wow. So, the Agarthans introduced the Germans to this ruined area underneath the ice in Antartica? [In Episode 2: Agarthans: Advancing the Frontier, CG reveals that the Germans encountered several enormous ancient ruins in Antartica left by another civilization they built a base in after realizing they were going to loose World War II.]
|Old German map of Antartica; Neu Schwabenland.|
- DW – And you said that there was some underground development as well as on the surface. Are we talking like basement cellars <chuckle>? How much underground infrastructure did [the German breakaway group] have down there?
- CG – It was basically the same kind of underground caverns that were built out by another civilization in ancient times.
- DW – It’s pretty extensive?
- CG – Yes.
- DW – We’re talking [about going] multiple levels down [below the surface]?
- CG - Right, just like the description I gave you one other time about the further you go down you have kind of a honeycomb structure of caverns deeper under the Earth.
- DW – Let’s just jump to that for a second because I think a lot of people are going to have some trouble with that, at least in the idea that, in conventional scientific terms, there’s an understanding that the further down you go into the earth, the temperature steadily increases. So wouldn’t these people just be burned alive in some kind of super oven?
- CG – That is the case for certain areas and depths, [but going deeper past these areas] it begins to reverse.
- DW – You actually get a cooling effect?
- CG – Right. There’s exponentially less pressure and heat [past a certain point], just as the pressure and heat go up exponentially as you go down [from the surface]. It reverses [after a certain depth, which varies across the planet]. [In other words, starting from the Earth’s surface, as one moves down into the crust, heat and pressure rise exponentially. But after a certain point there is a terminus or boundary where heat and pressure actually begins to lesson, ‘reversing’ the trend above this point. This model of the Earth’s interior is highly suggestive ofHollow Earth theories, an aspect of an Electric Universe model. On the Earth’s surface, interactions between the negatively charged solar wind an the positively charged ionosphere induces an electromagnetic field on the surface produces lightning and contributes to weather systems. In this model, the core of the Earth is a highly energetic and electrically active plasma that acts as a type of inner sun. Below the surface, this inner core is negatively charged interacting with the positively charged surface, creating a reverse density gradient of electrical pressure (higher pressure on the outside with lesser pressure on the inside), becoming less intense as one moves below the boundary of interaction. If this model is correct, there would be a point below the surface where electrical energy lessons, most-likely contributing to the formation of huge cavern systems as the Earth’s surface expands like a balloon from electrical pressure. Finally, there may even be an ‘inner’ Earth surface lit by an ‘inner sun’ of some type (the electrically active plasma core), all made possible by electromagnetic interactions of the Earth-Sun system.]
- DW – Do you think that these areas deep under the Earth that have vegetation and their own parallel evolution a of a biome, [complete with] animals and plants and so on – do you think this is evidence of intelligent design? Doesn’t it seem like the planet is ‘rigged’ to have intelligent life that can live on the surface and then maybe more advanced intelligent life [develops] that can live underneath to supervise [the surface] while being undetected?
- CG – Life springs up wherever it can.
- DW – Even in such a complex form as a whole biome, you’re saying?
- CG – Right, even in interstellar space.
- DW – Right, we talked about before, the Solar Warden people analyzing these plasma beings out there. [CG has discussed in the past that during his time in the Solar Warden program, on a research vessel tasked with studying the cosmos, he encountered gaseous life forms near Jupiter, which are a type of organized living plasma. These beings were enormous in size and the team CG worked with attempted to take a sample of the life form aboard the research vessel but was unable to keep it alive for study.]
- CG – Right.
- DW – Ok, let’s walk through how the Germans got up to the Moon. We kind of covered this a little bit last time, but you said that the super federation meetings you talked about, where there are 22 genetic programs that are being run on humanity, part of which involves the sharing and splicing of genetic material. You also mentioned, we’re programed to seek out and worship god-like figures and transfer our power to gurus, leaders and politicians, that kind of thing?
- CG – Correct.
- DW – And these people that run the super federation – I think you said there’s 40 that are normally like the main ones?
- CG – 40 to 60.
- DW – Is it always the same delegates that they send to these conferences or does it rotate?
- CG – It’s usually the same ET delegates [from these 40 to 60 groups]. The Earth delegation [from the SSP Alliance] rotates.
- DW – So Corey, we’re going to have to devote whole episodes to what happened with the building out of the Moon and what happened with the building out of Mars. But for the viewer, it’s going to be a really difficult thing for them to understand how Germany, which was really the main industrial engine behind World War I and World War II – they were arguably the great industrial power of Europe, and then America became their main counterpart in this boxing match that created World War I and World War II. That very strong industrial power seems to have been crushed. When we see the aftermath of World War II, the Germans had to pay enormous reconstruction settlements – financial settlements, that essentially bankrupted their economy. Just like what happened after World War I where you got the Weimar Republic, and people have to have a wheelbarrow with money just to go buy a loaf of bread. So look, Germany seems to have been flattened out and had nothing left [to develop this program you are talking about.]
- CG – Well at this point, Germany had already been abandoned by the German breakaway civilization.
- DW – Really?
- CG – Yes.
- DW – When did that start to happen?
- CG – It started to happen well before the end of the war. They saw the writing on the wall, the war was going to go badly; and they knew it. So they started, as we discussed, creating enclaves in South America, Brazil and then down in Antartica.
- DW – This is all in preparation for them losing [the war]?
- CG – Right.
- DW – What were they [planing] to do if they lost?
- CG – They wanted to continue their breakaway civilization and leave all the regular people behind.
- DW – Is the apparatus that’s developing the breakaway civilization in its own separate compartment, different from the government apparatus that’s actually fighting the war?
- CG – Yes, they were totally separate by this time.
- DW – Really?
- CG – <nods head in affirmation>
- DW – I think that’s a widely misunderstood concept what you’re saying there.
- CG – Yes. What happened is, during Operation Paperclip, America had obtained quite a bit more scientists than advertised.
- DW – What is Operation Paperclip for those who may not know?
- CG – Operation Paperclip is an agreement where we (the United States) obtained German scientists and technology that was highly advanced; these people were 20 and 30 years ahead of us technologically; as far was what was said on paper.
|Wernher von Braun (middle) John F Kennedy (right).|
|Wernher von Braun (front right).|
ADMIRAL BYRD AND OPERATION HIGH JUMP:
- CG – So we brought them in, and after the war, we took these German scientists and put them into our fledgling space programs, into our infrastructure and started giving them quite a bit of power as they started proving themselves as valuable assets.
- DW – Why in the world would be trust them?
- CG – They were making the U.S. money.
- DW – <shakes head disapprovingly> It doesn’t seem like a good idea.
- CG – Well, it wasn’t. In 1947 our intelligence agencies discovered the breakaway German groups created enclaves in South America and Antartica. And we knew that in Antartica, there was a very large military base. What the DOD [U.S. Department of Defense] decided to do was send a very large fleet under the command of Admiral Byrd, called Operation High Jump. Many people are [probably] familiar with the name of that operation.
- CG – I can’t remember the exact number, but it was a war fleet.
- DW – Battleships, destroyers…
- CG – Battleships, destroyers, aircraft carriers, submarines, the whole nine yards.
- DW – This is after World War II though. You said 1947?
- CG – Yes, 1947. They made it all the way down to Antartica and ended up running into quite a bit of high technology that they didn’t expect. There were highly advanced [German breakaway] aircraft coming up out of the water, from mainland Antartica, that were shooting down [the American] aircraft and major damage was done on several destroyers – lives were lost and the [Americans] really had their rear ends handed to them.
- DW – [The Germans were] shooting them down with rockets and machine guns?
- CG – [No], advanced weaponry. Energetic weaponry of some sort.
- DW – Wow. How destructive were these weapons? What would happen if they fired one?
- CG – It was destructive enough to get the job done. So the Americans, turned around, retreated, came back and Admiral Byrd appeared before the DOD, the President, the Join Chiefs, to give a closed report about what he ran into. His log, the Captain’s log is still under lock and key to this day [I did find a ‘secret diary’ of Admiral Byrd during my research, that article can be found here]. Some of his comments made it out into the public, where he said ‘the next war we will be attacked by aircraft that can fly from pole to pole in a matter of minutes.’ [not a direct quote]. A couple small comments got out like that. This [account by Byrd] caused the DOD and intelligence agencies to go to the Paperclip scientists…
- DW – But wait a minute. I was a geek and I read about 300 books on Atlantis. And they say that Admiral Byrd saw the [Hollow] Earth and [this kind of thing], that there were mammoths and cavemen [there].
- CG – That’s a bunch of stuff that came out later, which has nothing to do with the actual mission he was on.
- DW – Was it disinformation? Was it planted disinformation?
- CG – It was either disinformation or somebody with a large imagination. I don’t know which.
- DW – Ok. <motions to proceed with the story>
- CG – But [the Americans] ended up getting in contact with some of these Paperclip German scientists, and some of them came clean, and said ‘yes we know about some of these groups.’ The Americans said ‘can you get us in contact with them; [the breakaway German group in Antartica’]. So these Paperclip scientists [working for the Americans] started a dialog between the Americans [and the German breakaway group]. And then, I believe it was President Truman…
- DW – Did they do this over radio; some sort of encrypted radio communications?
- CG – It started out as radio communications, [where] they arranged a meeting between Truman and the breakaway [German] group.
- DW – No kidding.
- CG – This breakaway group started making some pretty heavy demands that Truman didn’t like.
- DW – So if High Jump happened in 1947, when [did these communications start happening]?
- CG – Immediately after [High Jump. After this communication] there was a period of contention. The German breakaway civilization [learned] through the Paperclip Germans, that after [the] Roswell [UFO incident] and [earlier] crashes by extraterrestrial craft, [the Americans] created a policy above top secret, above nuclear weapons, that made the existence of extraterrestrials and certain technologies [highly classified]; never [meant] to be released to mankind. This was because [doing so] would destroy society and [the socioeconomic fabric of the planet], that was their reasoning [anyway]. [After] the German breakaway group that was down in Antartica [learned about this policy to hide the existence of ETs from the public, the Germans] started to take advantage of this and [did] sorties over the United States; [flyovers of advanced aircraft that the public would mistake for ET craft]. This includes the [well documented] 1952 flyovers of [UFOs spotted over] Washington DC, which were two weeks apart.
- DW – I always thought that was extraterrestrials; they flew right over Congress.
- CG – Those were the German breakaway group [aircraft]. [This move] was their way of saying, ‘agree to our terms, sign a treaty with us or we’re going to break this [who story] wide open. ‘We know that this is your worst nightmare, you don’t want the American people to know about this.’
- DW – [If the story got out that advanced space age technology existed the Americans] would loose control of the oil [and as a result] they would loose their money. They would loose the economy, they would loose political creditability…
- CG – Exactly.
- DW – This is the ‘offer they couldn’t refuse.’ [In other words, the breakaway German group coerced the American Cabal faction into working with them by threatening the Americans with disclosure of advanced technology. This would presumably render the fossil fuel paradigm obsolete along with the control of the financial system due to people having access to free energy technology. If humanity could produce the energy it needed for free this would diminish the need to work for a living, making free time available to discover the truth and become more free as a result. This is something the Cabal would try to, and does, stop at all costs.]
TREATIES SIGNED BETWEEN BREAKAWAY GROUP AND THE UNITED STATES:
- CG – Right. So this was happening at the end of Truman’s Presidency and the beginning of Eisenhower’s time in office.
- DW – At this point did the President of the United States still actually have the final say-so on the military and what they were doing?
- CG – Yes, he still had quite a bit of power. Eisenhower and Truman were the ones that signed treaties with the German breakaway group.
- DW – Wow.
- CG – What this did is brought the German breakaway group over to the United States. Both groups had an agenda [and they were each working to ensure it was successful]. The Americans had a plan that when the German breakaway group arrived, they we were going to infiltrate them, get their technology, find a way to defeat them – to use clean language <chuckle> – and come out the winner. Well, the German breakaway group had the same plan. They wanted to build out infrastructure in deep space and our solar system. Who better to do that than then United States, because [it was our industrial might that] defeated them. That [we] defeated the Germans because we built more tanks, more bombs, etc. It was attrition that caused the Germans to loose the war.
- DW – Did this German group get out with gold? Did they have their own sources of funding they could use [for] potential labor pools to activate?
- CG – Yes, they had lots of gold and plunder that they had [in their possession].
- DW – But they need workers [and] industrial infrastructure?
- CG – [Yes], they needed industrial infrastructure. They needed access to our corporations, which signed the checks [for the people that] created the business plans [that] helped built out the infrastructure. So what happened is [the German group] won this little competition for who would infiltrate who. And they completely infiltrated the [United States] military industrial complex.
- DW – Completely infiltrated?
- CG – Yes.
- DW – That’s a very provocative statement. How [would] you define…
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